The Submissive EmperorCh16 - A Dark Conspiracy

 

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  3. If he had married a woman, she might have been frightened to tears by now. She probably wouldn’t have had the presence of mind to remember to put up appearances for him.

    It would be really nice if only author’s of BL novels doesn’t always compare being with a man vs being with a woman. It really ruins the reading experience for me. Also, this author is also the same author who The Wife is First, and they also made this kind of comparison in that novel. No one likes being compared with other people. Really, it’s kind of offensive reading this kind of a line as a woman. Not all women are weak and incapable in real life as what BLs usually portray us.

    • I know what you mean. I was a bit annoyed translating that part! I tell myself that it’s ancient times, so I suppose that characterisation of women may not necessarily be untrue. Not all of this author’s books are like that though – Peach doesn’t have this, for example! It actually has a very awesome female characters, like the MC’s mother and another character who appears later in the story. If you want LYQH’s great storytelling without the woman-hating, I highly recommend Peach. 😀

      • I’m kinda used to this already, so sometimes I just turn a blind to this kind of thing. This is kind of normal/typical in BL where women are portrayed badly; of course there are also gems that doesn’t discriminate against women, which is why I really like it when a female character is baddie in a BL story. Ge Rouyi in The Wife is First, is dang badass. Historical novel tend to portray women as weak, and doesn’t have a lot of power and authority; which is understandable because it’s part of history and culture, and it’s a freaking historical novel so~

        Thank you for recommending, I will check that out later!

    • I was also upset by that specially since it’s the second time. The first was the crown prince saying a woman would have been dissatisfied with a small entourage when going to visit her family after the marriage. I really don’t get why intentionally insult women in BL when we are such a larger portion of the readership of BL

      • It’s actually true that as a women in that time they might take offense if the entourage is small since that can affect their reputation outside. People will assume that their husband does not favor them. With a male wife however, a big entourage will just embarrassed them. Remember, this is a historical novel therefore the author will definitely play into the stereotypes of women during that time.

    • It’s so true.I think the comparisons were really unnecessary.Now in modern days women are doing everything, even physical task like going into war, being a soldier.So it’s not like in past women couldn’t do things, it’s just society specifically men didn’t give any chance to women for empowerment. Women were not allowed to study let alone learning any other thing,,,the girls were just little kids when they get married off.

      So,I feel really sad when a modern author wrote about women like this in novel ( as I've never read any other chinese novel except bl,so I don't know about other genre),,

      For example – I think from the top of the pyramid (emperor) to the bottom every person is playing their own game. when a man is calculative he is called clever but when a woman is calculative she is shown in a bad light( for example – concubines & empress)…I really feel disappointment towards the modern authors for this type of discrimination.

  4. Yet another horrible father in this novel. It’s truly sad that there isn’t even one loving parent for any of the characters

  8. I’m tired of the comparison between men and women but I’ll take it as it’s a historical novel. I really hope it doesn’t come up again as it’s off putting

  9. I don’t get why people are so mad at it being saying a woman would’ve been scared in that kid of situation. A lot of women at that time weren’t even allowed to leave home. Even the ones who were allowed do walk around were sheltered about politics, and the ones who weren’t had to worry about how they would live if their husband suddenly was killed, imprisioned or some shit. It was literally their reality, of course a woman would’ve been so afraid to what would happen they would cry. I’m a modern woman, and if someone suddenly came to my home right now telling me that my husband was being accused of embezzeling money from the government, I sure as hell would be scared out of my wits and I sure would cry, hyperventilate, the whole shit. Yes, a man maybe would have the same reaction, but it’s freaking ancient China where the “men shouldn’t cry” bullshit was even worse than nowadays. The most a man from that time would’ve done was hyperventilate while pretending everything was just fine and he was just thinking about what to do. Stop reading historical novels while looking at it from modern points of view. It’s a whole nother time century, maybe even a whole nother millenia, in a patriarchal culture. If you feel put off by that kind of thing, then don’t read historical novels that give a realistic representation of society.

  10. Well damn, it sounds like the emperor is also in the planing of framing his own son. At least Xiao Chengjun has the empress by his side. Empress Ji is not the step-dad, he’s the dad who stepped in.